Explaining video

I wanted to do this for a long time. I got myself a screen recording software and I explained the

situation on the forum in a more visual way. (as you can see in the image)

It felt kind of relieved to just say it.

I apologize for my coughing and my bad articulation.

If you want to know what happened , plz take a minute to follow the link, download and unzip the file.

link 1:

http://www.bestsharing.com/f/lXiT4p250922

link 2:

http://rapidshare.com/files/23366721/angelgurlexplains.zip

VIDEO NOTE:

There's a moment where I say "the request subforum was originally placed here" (points to the rules subforum) I meant to point under miscellaneous subforum.

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Official announcement on the forum

Alex posted the official announcement on the forum about our leaving.
In my video I say everything in the announcement is true. Well not all of it.
It seems that Alex has some serious holes in his memory.
I was ofcourse admin before the new owners arrived. Together with guustflaterke.
But I did ask for the skins permission (username skins) cause back in the phpbb software
I wasn't able to view the logs etc... so I got the 'skins' password.

I think after posting this vid, this will be one of my last ramblings about the forum...

Beautiful vid

CARWALLS UPDATE

For those who haven't noticed. Carwalls has now an extra feature.
The bio and facts of each car are now viewable.

Check it out: http://www.carwalls.com

WTF. My link has been removed?

@ Alex and team

Sadly the link to my goodbye letter in my sig has been removed!!
How could you! That's at least one thing I owe to my members.
Cause you didn't even gave me the chance. But I took it and just left, I'm not even posting on the forum anymore.
I have nothing to hide. I am in no way bashing you or the others.
This blog only tells the truth! nothing more nothing less.
But truth hurts, doesn't it?

The rules state:

35. No site promotion in sigs. (no wp sites etc) personal sites are allowed

Your act is a childisch act only for your advantage and has nothing to do with skins and its morality.

The PM

I forgot. This PM was sent before the msn conv below this post.
That's why I said in the conv: did you get my PM

Quote Alex

Hi,

Any ideas how to work together in the future? The actual
situation is worse case

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Hi Alex (and team)

Me (and the mods) are willing to work with you guys. But it are the techs and their behavior that bothers us very much.
When we are opening topics in forum issues and discussing matters we don't see the techs around,
When we have made a discission we suddenly hear them complain.
Not just suggestive complaining but rudely.
If they don't show us respect we won't either.

I know you and I had a bad start. And I'm glad we could sort things out. Atleast we were able to communicate again.
I truly hope we can communicate with the techs also without the fuzz leaving both sides unsatisfied.

My solution is. When there's something or anything that the owners don't like, inform us immediately (msn, pm or replying to the topic).
So we can avoid 'suprises'.
Unfortunately we don't have the msn of the techs.

For now, I've lowered my activity on the forum.
Cause I feel limited in doing my job.

I truly hope we can sort this out for the sake of our members.

Sincerely
Angel gurl and mods

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UPDATE:

Metalmachine , one of the ex mods on skins has a blog too!
Follow the link and read what he has to say!!

http://metalmachine.efx2.com/view/84868/320-Replaced/

The MSN conv.

The conversation ...
I'm Miss Thang FYI


20/03/2007 11:15:53

Miss Thang*+.
You want to stop our activities?
Alex.
when we can't speak together it seems to be the only possibility
Miss Thang*+.
did you get my pm ?
Alex
yep ... I'm glad that you answered this way
Miss Thang*+.
I have nothing against you, we only have to be nicer against eachoter caus I'm willing to help
Miss Thang*+.
from both sides that is
Alex
*agrree* I write our "core values" this week so you admin and mods should know better, what our policy is
Miss Thang*+.
what did you write?
Alex
nothing until now *g*
Miss Thang*+.
We've accepted your policies (concering online list, etc) now for a long time, it's only that we don't know what your opinion is on certains topics. Wich results in this bad communication, we'd like to know everything on time , can you understand ?
Alex
there have been some wrong decisions from you in the last time a -and you made them public before we can discuss them with you
Alex
let us time to react
Miss Thang*+.
Hmm we know you're not online often , but some topics are quite open for a long time. But it's fair enough , we shall do that, but I expect from your side remarks with arguments. Somehow the mods and I feel offensed.
Alex
a) we're online anytime (it's our job) b) it seems that you often don't understand our arguments
Miss Thang*+.
A) dunno, I don't see you a lot on the forum that's my impression, B) We indeed cannot understand where all those arguments come from after a long time silence. C) If we keep continue with this childisch abc, I'll take the advice from wim and jan
Alex
childish abc?
Miss Thang*+.
matter of speaking
Alex
the way i talk to you just this moment?
Miss Thang*+.
It's just that I want us to get to the point, do we have a deal or not ?(we leaving you more room to decide, your team being less rude)
Alex
it's not you to place the deal here, girl
Miss Thang*+
Okay fine
Miss Thang*+.
then I'll resign
Miss Thang*+.
But remember you'll always have troubles with mods and admins
Alex
i think it's better to say thanks for your work in the past
Miss Thang*+.
we're both equal
Miss Thang*+.
okay
Miss Thang*+.
I'll leave you, and wish you the best (you'll need it) , are you going to point an new admin , or should I do it?
Alex
I will do it
Miss Thang*+.
okay ;)
Alex
it is not your job
Miss Thang*+.
atleast I was doing my job
Alex
a very long time very good
Miss Thang*+.
the mods will decide for theirself if they stay or leave , they'll decide , and let you know , ;)
Alex
I decide
Miss Thang*+.
why's that, you'll need mods anyway
Alex.
but I decide which mods
Miss Thang*+.
okay , it's your forum
Alex
now you get it
Miss Thang*+.
I saw you trough for a long time , amazingly
Miss Thang*+.
I'll miss your sarcasm btw
Alex
I guess it is time to stop this conversation now... have a good time, angel_gurl
Miss Thang*+.
you too
Miss Thang*+.
good luck (you'll need it)

Goodbye ramblings

Dear readers.


So that's it. It's over. I'm no longer admin on the Skins.be Forum.


At first I was laughing about it but then I started to realize..what happened...I shivered. I wanted to drop a tear but couldn't caus I was in school, luckily the msn conversations with my fellow mods kept me through the day.

I would be lying if I told you I don't care. You know I'm a constructive , hard working type. I love to organize, to solve problems , to brainstorm, to search endless for solutions. And yet it has come to an end.


Like the ex-owners said 'you really liked that modding eh?' . Bless them.


I don't regret being part of the skins community. Those two and a half years on the forum have been absolutely amazing.

I'll never forget our 'pink' forum (what were the girls in the header doing?!), rules in the hq section, the dutch mods, the no-sig rule, silly topics (boobs in your language) and not to forget....the members! I got to know a lot of people and even made friends.


I remember as if it was yesterday. Our first topics were posted by Wim, Jan, Glenn and Me.
They contained LQ pics with some comments from the mods, very monologue *g*
(I believe our first topic was Beyonce Knowless?)


The forum was getting bigger so we needed to hire mods. Our main rule was 'you have to speak dutch to become mod' . We had our team (baracus, guustflaterke, wim, jan, glenn, dropkick murphy) so we were devided. At that time I was modding two forums togheter with baracus.


But I saw a lot of merging, movin..in the other forums. So I had to ran off (yes wim and jan are my neighbours) to their house to report the stuff. So they decided to make me supermod.

Later Amaru and Sincere joined the team.


Through time I discovered we have several types of members, the quiet ones (lurkes), the reply'n'comment ones, the hq posters, the frank ones and the trouble makers.

We didn't have a lot of troublemakers in the past only a few who deleted their own posts/pics.

The forum was growing but became also awfully slower and slower ...and slower

After a while some of our best hq members left because of that slowness.

There were also some staff changes going on, baracus left and started his own site, dropkick left, and me and guustflaterke became site admins. We hired new mods, and hired our first non-dutch mods, wow!

Rabies joined us and so did the TheCaretaker. In the meanwhile the slowness was fixed (due to a tiny bug) and the forum became active again. The slow forum was one of the first forum depts I can remember.

It all went well until I heard the terrible news that skins.be was closing. There was a chance that the forum could stay online.

We were desvistated. We know what you guys felt by your reactions but believe me. I could see that dissapointing look on the owners faces. Law troubles. Pff

All those efforts they've put in the site, every single day updating the site manually.

Would it all be gone in a flash? I felt so sorry for them.

When we posted the announcement on the forum a rage broke out. Everybody was sharing their email adresses (everybody knew everybody back then) and replied with disbelief.
Even many zero posters , lurkers started to post and showed us their sympathy.

Thanks to all who supported us. Quoted from a sig: R.I.P. Skins.be


But the end can also be the beginning. A while later Wim and Jan informed me they've found new owners and already met them. I was so happy. This meant neither to the site nor the forum had to close down.

New announcement: Skins.be is back!

Alex and his team were like knights on shiny horses. Alex kept the current mod/admin team.
The forum kept growing and growing, a lot of HQ posters, usercash made his way, ...

And a new exciting but refreshing event. The Skins.be babe Tournament a.k.a BT.
It all went well untill there were a lot of members cheating. Even spamming.
The thing that hurt me most was that some of the users accused us of cheating.
I remember being dissapointed in the trust of our members. So I made an announcement to set things straight . 'Where's the trust'? even if it's virtual trust' I wrote.
One reply = one vote, collecting some ip's and we managed to get through the tournament.


I swore never to organize one again.


There was also a time when the forum got overwhelmed with spam (ads). The mods had their hands full. But there was also good news. A new forum software! vBulletin!

After the transformation the spamming disappeared. Okay it was a default layout but I could live with that. Atleast some people were happy to find a 'purpleless' layout.

Finally everything could be sorted (rules subforum), image-in-sig-revolution, and ... the introduction of six new mods: metalmachine, HB, Crock, Boris, Krypto, XELF.

Next mission: the forum division. The users came to the discission to leave the good'ol forum as it is. And in the end I'm glad we left it like that.

Rabies got a new idea and so it be: the first skins.be forum awards !

I wasn't ready for another tournament lol :D


But behind the scenes discissions have to made. Alex and his team couldn't agree with me and the mods on certain matters. I'm speaking in name of the mods cause they have the same opinion as me. In the end there was no way to work this out and well....you know the rest *sigh*

I came home from school and had to announce the sad news. Jan kinda saw it coming.


All I could say was:'It's not in our hands anymore' . They understood me.


And said 'you really liked the modding eh'





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I want to thank these special people.



Glenn:

The owner and founder of the skins.be
'you've got the wall , we've got the paper' *puts thumbs up* , hah
I want to thank you like you thanked me when the forum was going to be closed.
You've been my walking computer encyclopedia. The answer to all my questions
Thnx for creating skins. Keep maintaining the other ones.


Wim and Jan

My fellow neighbours and webmasters of skins
Thnx for letting me suggest things. If you guys need help with English mails *wink*
Wim, you've always been a desktopmachine. Like you said: busy, busy, busy
So thanks for updating carwalls.
Jan that one sentence became legendary to me: Seeing problems were there are none
Always the down to earth guy. Why making troubles when you can avoid it?
I've learned a lot from your advises.
Keep doing a great job with the moviewalls. Damn why are you always ahead of me :D


Guustflaterke
I hope the parenthood goes well. Did you get the card we send?
See you on msn!



Baracus
How is the celeb blog doing. Thanks for sending those walls back then.




Sincere and Amaru
You guys are probably in holland somewhere.
Elin was like heaven to you sincere. And you didn't even had to try to touch Amaru's alba ;-)
Thnx for all the modding



DropkickMurphy
Aaah one of the first admins. You've contributed a lot of movies!
Thanks for your contributions , you've been a fundament on the board.



Rabies
Where do I start. This guy is so damn interesting.
You're the type who has to try atleast everything once . But you're very creative and
you're full of ideas. Fact is that you seem to possess a huge forum archive with old pm's etc..I'm so glad you kept that; Guess we're both nostalgic. *g*
I know you're on holiday now and I honestly miss you.
Argh ! haha lol


The Caretaker
You're my fellow guitar lover! I still remember that pic of you classic-rock style !
Jennifer is your idol! Scans even make her even more complete
We should definately visit your house by the sea one day.
Good luck in university!


Metalmachine
What I appreciate about you is that you like to laugh (a lot!)
You bring fun and amusement in our boring meetings.
You're a night person wich matches perfectly with our timezone. ;-)
Sometimes you just like to read our conv but you're aware of people's mood
and you'll reply with the appropriate cheer-up laugh or seriousness.
Thank you very much


Crock
The manslaughter wears sunglasses! haha
Your IT knowledge has helped the forum a lot. Your replies always make sense.
You're an excellent problem solver. Thnx for being my favo tech.
angel_gurl aka dudette , lol


XELF
I remember our first meeting. Are you guys still up?! haha
You're a great contributor and never brought the forum in jeopardy ;-)
You know all the know hows , do and dont's of HQ posting.
Culture sharing is always nice with you.
Thanks for your contribution!



Boris
A veteran-senior in army moderator!
You know the members, the up and downs, you all made it through. Like me.
Thanks for your loyalty, for staying with us when times got rough.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T ps. good luck! I hope you win!



KryptonianJedi
I've joined the panjab group and your board.
You're also a great contributer that we can't miss. Originallity shows in your username.
But I think you're also very caring. You're a fun person!
See you on the board and I'll write some more on that wall of yours.


HB
The naughtiest mod of them all.
Very smart and helpful.
Taking care of the forum when we're asleep
See you on MSN buddy!



Also thanks to all our members. May you have a lot of fun on the board!

Kind regards


angel_gurl
Comments/remarks: angel_numba_777@hotmail.com


'And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, Ill say it clear,Ill state my case, of which Im certain
...
Ive loved, Ive laughed and cried.
Ive had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that
And may I say - not in a shy way
No, oh no not me,I did it my way' - Sinatra F.